rydra_wong: The Great Race Discussion Linkspam

rydra_wong (

rydra_wong) wrote,
@ 2006-06-03 09:27:00

The Great Race Discussion Linkspam
For personal reference, and for anyone else who's interested, because we need to be having these conversations, and right now it seems like we might be reaching some sort of long-overdue tipping point, with discussions springing up all over.

Note: I update this irregularly - the most recent rounds of discussion are to be found at the top, as a direct result of my laziness. Exact chronological order cannot be guaranteed.

"Kristallnacht" RPG:

bof: This name sounds familiar. What does Kristallnacht mean? {comprehensive link round-up at unfunnybusiness}

Bandom:

ficbyzee: I'm going to start off with a somewhat-dickish disclaimer

Misc.

liviapenn: You're Racist Against Sidekicks!

Merlin Missy: How to Be a Fandom Jerk in Just a Few Easy Steps

8th POC in SF Carnival: Intra-POC Dialogues:

sugargroupie: PoC SF Carnival #8: Somewhere on the Internet, People of Color are Planning a Revolution

ciderpress: and this is my universal translator. so far it only translates into an incomprehensible language.

SPN:

maboheme: ...and that's all she wrote.

mirian-heddy: Pretty White Boys, Racism and Coincidence

SGA 417: Midway:

cesperanza: SGA 417 - Midway

thete1: About SGA 4x17: Midway

lcsbanana: HOW CAN YOU NOT THINK OF BLACK PEOPLE ON SCI-FI SHOWS AS BLACK? HOW? WHAT?

ithiliana: Ranting about Rhetorics about Race

"Tone" (and misc.):

The Privilege of Politeness by Naamen Gobert Tilahun (not fannish but very relevant to the discussions over "tone")

helsmeta: But I couldn't not say this.

lottelita in deadbrowalking: One white fan on "showing your ass"

ignazwisdom: In which I dip my toes into the churning waters of race meta, and hope not to be bit by sharks

witchqueen: What I learned about tone

elynross: Musings on fandom and racism

princessofg: Meta: Fiedler again, or, it's not just the slasher's gaze (uses Fiedler's essay "Come Back to the Raft Ag'in, Huck Honey" as a jumping-off point for discussion of slash and race)

thelastgoodname: And now for something completely different

paradox_dragon: Baby-stepping away from racism: A guide for white people

chopchica: you'd better watch your tone with me, young lady!

spiralsheep: In which there are white privilege and racial slurs

carlanime: Second Verse, Same as the F--oh, hell, are we doing this again? No: still. Not again, still.

sandersyager: race, procedurals, and princesses

hsapiens: My Role as a White Member of Fandom (and Humanity)

witchqueen: Tone: Let's approach this from the other direction

01100100: This post is mostly for anyone that drops by

darkrosetiger: Tone-deaf

helsmeta: On the term "Oriental", defining terms, and losing my shit

Racial fetishes and "why can't we have the discussion?":

darkrosetiger: Not Your Granddad's Magical Negro

telesilla: just don't expect fluffy bunnies

Misc.

starkeymonster: Head Count Time

coffeeandink: This again

sameoldhope: Wanking Fandom, Saving The World (on why imbroglios about race are not "wank")

mimesere: a fannish thing that is kind of bugging me

Anti-Semitism again, again:

rydra_wong: I don't have enough caffeine for this round of bingo

chopchica: what the *fuck*, people?

technosage: deja vu all over again

a2zmom: I Am Shaking In Anger

stoney321: Good freaking hell, people.

kita0610: Where's the end of my patience?

ladycat777: Okay, you know what? I have sat and sat and sat

synecdochic: the past didn't go anywhere

katie_m: A few helpful hints on the use of the word "they"

coffeeandink: History, memory, magnitude

the-red-shoes: the HELL?

coffeeandink: Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with people?

yhlee: I need an Anti-Anti-Semitism icon, because this is just getting ridiculous.

"Tone" and related meta-issues:

ladyjax: For everyone who wants to 'learn' something about racism

delux_vivens: a question.

cryptoxin: Note to Self (life lessons from LJ)

Cambodia and genocide in fic:

hesychasm: here we go again

skywardprodigal: Fandom: Nisay, Supernatural, sneering

jennem: Why It is Not Okay to Use Mass Genocide in Your Porn.

kita0610: Godwin's Law: Everybody Skate!

vaznetti: Someone's going to break Godwin's law here soon...

ingrid-m: Starting to believe all this porn is warping a few minds ...

lizbee: Oh fandom, you fail so hard (as usual)

siljamus: Dear Fandom,.....

brown-betty: Some thoughts on writing outside my experience

Misc.

coffeeandink: Common and Hidden Knowledge - index post

eid_fic

popfantastic: How To Make Sure That Everyone Who Counts Has A Good Time In Fandom

Anti-Semitism, contd. - Yuletide and related:

chopchica: don we now our flameproof armor

untrueaccounts: Here are my thoughts on /y/a/o/i/ "yuletide," fandom, and anti-Semitism

ladycat777: Andrea Gets Her Meta On

kita0610: Oyvey

chopchica: links a billion

skywardprodigal: Effery, Yuletide, and EFFERY

chopchica: you can call me ... zog

fox1013: His heart grew three sizes that day. (...See, it works on LEVELS.) (also contains discussions of race issues in Heroes)

kita0610: Well that made my day

vaznetti: Warning: I am so furious that I can barely see

brown-betty: Why be coy?

holli: Some observations on the art of invisibility.

elishava: the power of visibility

lenadances: For people in the majority when dealing with those in the minority

chopchica: links redux and some handy bullet points

untrue-accounts: This is not a pie-eating competition

rubynye: Solidarity

Anti-Semitism and Jewishness:

chopchica: where's MY parade?

kita0610: IBARW

technosage: Painting a gold star on my shoulder

kita0610: Got soul but

kita0610: Addendum to Prior Post

xanphibian: meta recs + the privilege to dismiss

vaznetti: racism and anti-semitism

daysofawesome

IBARW 2007:

{As with IBARW 2006, I'm going to link to the indexes, rather than trying to cover everything myself - my fingers are still worn out from the HP debate ...}

http://del.icio.us/ibarw

ibarw

red_eft: IBaRW 07 prep

deadbrowalking - check out the community memories here.

White Liberal Bingo - not specifically related to fandom, but ...

Some non-LJ/JF resources:

Shame and The Shame of Earthsea: A Public Response To What Some Folks Are Saying About That Essay by Pam Noles

Tobias S. Buckell: Douglas Blaine on Shame

Stephen King's Super-Duper Magical Negroes by Nnedi Okorafor-Mbachu

White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh

How Not To Be Insane When Accused Of Racism (A Guide For White People)

Cultural Etiquette: A Guide for the Well-Intentioned by Amoja Three Rivers (link found via

littlebutfierce)

Remember Us

Carl Brandon Society blog

And what it's not about - Wesley's Liberal Guilt, fic by Jessica Harris

If anyone would rather not be linked, just let me know and I'll remove you. If there's stuff you think should be added, let me know.

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nell65
2006-06-05 03:06 pm UTC (link)

I'm not at all sure where to put this, so I thought this might be the most useful spot.

I recently discovered the PBS series, Race, the Power of an Illusion - its uneven .... but the third segment, The House We Live In has a really terrific short(ish) segment on housing and redlining in the US after WWII that does a magnificent job (IMO) of telling the history of redlining, and explaining the consequence with regard to accruing generational wealth and advantages, and the sometimes ironic, sometimes tragic interaction of large systems with individual choices.

Its the first thing I've found to show to my almost entirely white students (l live in Northern Minnesota) that makes them think quietly and reflect, rather than get defensive or angry about the meaning of accumulated privilege over time. The bit on citizenship from the same segment is also very powerful, but not as much on topic of what white privilege means in RL terms.

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rydra_wong
2006-06-05 03:30 pm UTC (link)

Thank you - I'd guess that consciousness-raising resources are always useful.

Va Google I found a website for the series, with lots of online articles as background reading for the various segments:

http://www.pbs.org/race/000_General/000_00-Home.htm

http://www.newsreel.org, who made the series, also have background resources, including an article on the history of white financial advantage in the US:

http://www.newsreel.org/guides/race/whiteadv.htm

And an online transcript:

http://www.newsreel.org/transcripts/race.htm

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	vito_excalibur 2007-06-30 07:45 pm UTC (link)
	Damn. Thanks for going to the effort to put this together. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	rydra_wong 2007-06-30 08:28 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks! Although to be honest, it hasn't really involved that much effort - I started the post partly as a way to organize all the links I'd bookmarked, and now I just ETA new stuff in as I find it. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	brown_betty 2007-08-06 10:14 pm UTC (link)
	Dunno if you want to ETA ratcreature's post on racism in modern Germany. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	rydra_wong 2007-08-06 10:17 pm UTC (link)
	Ooh, excellent post. Thanks! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	here via synecdochic ursamajor 2007-10-26 06:37 pm UTC (link)
	Holy mother of completionist. Thank you for compiling all of these. I'll ... be reading for awhile. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	Re: here via synecdochic rydra_wong 2007-10-26 09:08 pm UTC (link)
	The terrifying thing is that I don't even try for completeness. And there are a bunch of things, like IBARW and the Great Cultural Appropriation Debate of DOOM, where I've settled for linking to someone else's roundup. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	the_red_shoes 2007-10-26 08:50 pm UTC (link)
	Woww, holy shit -- thank you. This is absolutely awesome. Of course right now I'm still so pissed I can BARELY SEE, but you remain absolutely awesome. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	rydra_wong 2007-10-26 09:23 pm UTC (link)
	I'm thrilled if I've managed to use my compulsive geekery for good g. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	alias_sqbr 2008-02-12 04:45 am UTC (link)
	I just came across this, and it's totally awesome. I recognise many of these from metafandom but have bookmarked it to have a more thorough look at later and see if I missed any. Would you mind if I posted it to debunking_white? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	rydra_wong 2008-02-12 09:51 am UTC (link)
	Would you mind if I posted it to debunking_white? Feel free! I'm thrilled if anyone finds it useful (and since it's entirely a list of other people's posts, it's not like I have any proprietorial rights anyway g; it really did start as a way to stop my bookmarks from going out of control). (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	alias_sqbr 2008-02-13 01:09 am UTC (link)
	Cool! Here it is. I didn't think you'd mind but my internal miss manners said I should ask and I find it's best to listen to her :) (Reply to this)(Parent)

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